Bayonet Removal Help

[Nan Moss]

Today I just purchased a very nice unissued  Mosin from a local sporting goods store for 59.00 +tax. The niceest and cheapest Mosin I've ever bought. Heres the delima. I  immediately unwrapped the new bayonet and stuck it on the end...NOW i can't get it back off! Whats the secret? Please help. Thanks.
NEVERMIND...

I found the ahh...solution but I do not like it. Machinig it for a proper fit is no problem. Getting it off to machine it is!

Here goes:
The bayonets on the 91/30 were rarely the ones that came with the gun. We all know that they're often too tight, virtually impossible to remove, and require you to go outside, find a block of wood or a tree, and bang the rifle against it over and over to remove it. If you'd like a quick and easy way to modify that bayonet a bit so that like more modern rifles, it's quickly removed and attached, here's what you do:

1: Take a power drill and a drill bit that is about a size smaller than the opening in the bayonet.
2: Take some coarse sandpaper and wrap it around the drill bit, getting it threaded snugly into the valleys on the drill bit.
3: Fit this down into your bayonet's hole. It should be fairly snug, but nothing you have to hammer in. A little dab will do you here.
4: Slowly start drilling. Move the drill up and down a bit to make sure you get a nice even covering, just in case the sandpaper doesn't get it all just sitting in one spot.
5: Brush any metal shavings out and test fit the bayonet. The ideal fit should be something that you can slip on and rotate over to the locked position, and rotate back and pull off using only your hands. It shouldn't rattle any at any point, but it shouldn't be difficult to remove by any means.

For me this took about five seconds of drilling. The inside of the bayonet is nice and smooth and even, and it slips on and off with ease. Even so, when it is on, it's perfectly secure and I could easily stab dirty capitalists until the cows come home. (quoted from the web)

[Nan Moss]

Just wanted to let you know I did NOT beat my MN against a tree or hit it with a block of wood.
I put the gun in a vise and heated the bayonet with a heat gun and tapped on it with a soft mallet after removing the front sight. Was not easy and I will definitely not do it again!

[entropy]

  You do not need to machine it; merely running a dowel with 320 or higher grit sandpaper, or some 2A Clover Lapping compound insde the socket of the bayonet will be sufficient. Coarse sandpaper removes more steel than is necessary and leaves unsightly, unprofessional scratch marks. Also the combitool's large oval opening can be placed over the bayonet and the tool used to get the bayonet off.

[johntheplinker]

Or you can pry open the gap the front sight goes through with a large screwdriver or the claw end of a hammer. If you spread it too much you can stick it in a vise and close it up a bit.  Wrap a rag around the tool to avoid marring the finish of the bayonet. Also doesn't affect the original finish like sanding or polishing.

[entropy]

  Works in a pinch, but kind of unprofessional; it creates stress 90 degrees from the bend, weakening the metal, and makes to non-concentric.

Let me put it this way; if one is professional enough to do it that way without messing it up, one should be professional enough to think of other ways to do it that would work better.

[White Horseradish]

  Works in a pinch, but kind of unprofessional; it creates stress 90 degrees from the bend, weakening the metal, and makes to non-concentric.

Let me put it this way; if one is professional enough to do it that way without messing it up, one should be professional enough to think of other ways to do it that would work better.

I am the only one on this board professional enough... *OW* Wazzat sticking out of  my foot? 

[entropy]

          

[jatwood]

I did the Ooo A bayonet, lets put it on RIGHT NOW! but did not use a caveman style of removal, but what i did do, was use my Dremel to take some metal out, and now it goes on and off with no problems 

[johntheplinker]

  Works in a pinch, but kind of unprofessional; it creates stress 90 degrees from the bend, weakening the metal, and makes to non-concentric.

Let me put it this way; if one is professional enough to do it that way without messing it up, one should be professional enough to think of other ways to do it that would work better.

Since it needs to be opened only a tiny fraction of an inch I seriously doubt there is much, if any stress is induced.  Sure as heck beats removing the original finish, which if I'm not mistaken is a permanent alteration.

[entropy]

     There's a simple cure for that; cold blue. Yes, it is a 'permanant alteration', but one BobW generally approves of because what good is a rifle without a bayonet? If you were a long time member, you'd know that.  Also, it is in a generally unnoticeable place.

[johntheplinker]

I'm not disputing whether it is allowed or not, nor am I saying your way is wrong or the mine is the right way, just an alternative that I prefer and nothing more. Being in a generally unnoticed place is a mighty weak argument, there are plenty of other things that I could do, if I was so inclined, that would improve the accuracy and overall performance of the rifle without being noticed but I would be willing to bet are not approved. After all, what good is a rifle that won't hit the broadside of a barn?  Besides, with out us nOObs showing up once in while to keep you on your toes, what would you be left to talk about?  Got to keep you old farts fresh!     

[entropy]

    

Very true! 

<takes the long jump off the high horse> Now you all know the dangers of posting with Percocet!  I am often guilty of thinking like a gunsmith in my replies, and sometimes also guilty of doing the opposite; But either way, I do try to remain open to different ways of doing things, and this is one I will consider.

[johntheplinker]

Percocet *shudder*

[millman]

If I had some percosets, all of my posts would look like this.  

[commie cannon]

If I have a bayo that does not fit the rifle it came with I simply try it on another until I find one that it will fit.  So far, I have been able to do this without altering the bayonets.
For some reason, they are all different.

Just my .02

[robmkivseries70]

Commie Cannon,
This definitely means I need more rifles!
Best,
Rob

[Ironnewt]

I feel so bad, my 91/30 came with a mismatched bayonet but it goes on (and comes off) without a hitch. I kinda feel slighted.